On Monday 10-19-2009 around 11:40 AM I called the Federal Court house and was directed to a Voice Mail account of the clerk that would be responsible for handling my case.
On Tuesday 10-20-2009 I called the Court again around 11:30 AM and I was able to explain that the United States Postal Service (USPS) had lost correspondence that I was trying to mail to the Judge back on July 20, 2009 and also two letters that I had sent to the Judge and the Clerk of Court on September 29, 2009. I asked about if the Court had a recess in the summer or if the hours of operation continued all year round. In our conversation I was invited to bring copies of my letters to the Court house to be put in an appropriate box according to my case number on the counter in the Office of the Clerk.
I printed off the copies of the letters that I wished to share with the Court, all three letters. Then I prepared myself for a trip to the Philadelphia, Federal Court House.
A few hours later around 4:00 PM I had delivered my mail and promptly called the supervisor of the local branch of my Post Office that I had contacted to let him know that I had hand delivered my letters.
I paid for my space in the parking garage and almost forgot to get a receipt.
On Thursday 10-29-2009 I made a phone call to the Federal Court around 4:20 PM and spoke with the Clerk handling my case again. I question what the status of the letters was and to make sure that both the amendment and the motion for a hearing were both clearly identified. The phone call took about 10minutes. I did not ask any details on my correspondence with respect to the order to dismiss my case, and in deed that letter contained the time line to validate that my filing was with in the statute of limitations the reason or issue that the Judge was ready and willing to dismiss my case with prejudice and order closed.
Now, I am back to waiting for more information maybe a decision that once again we can proceed.
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Thursday, October 29, 2009
My entry for Residential Alien
My entry for Residential Alien is submitted
You can enter this contest and find out more information about this site at the following URL:
http://residentialaliens.blogspot.com/2007/01/micro-fiction-contest.html
If I could do it I'm sure you can...
Have fun, :)
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You can enter this contest and find out more information about this site at the following URL:
http://residentialaliens.blogspot.com/2007/01/micro-fiction-contest.html
If I could do it I'm sure you can...
Have fun, :)
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Contests and Submissions
I think it is time for a post for all of those contests that I've tried to win, or places where I've submitted information for review or to be published.
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- Poetry.com my first submission of a poem was supposed to be published in a book titled 'On the Wings of Pegasus' here is a link to the poem She's my Fantasy
- Archived Links or POD casts for Radio Times, and the two times that I called into a Talk Radio Show can be found here, along with other WHYY/NPR programs that I listen to.
- I submitted this entry for the Public Radio Talent Quest contest.
- This is a post about an entry that I made at Wikipedia.
- Here is a link to an entry for consideration at Residential Alien
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Movie Reviews:
Here is a list of Movies that I've blogged about. The idea of story links made me think that this might be an interesting idea a way to keep track of posts and thoughts.
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Book Reviews
Book Reviews
For those books that I've read and wish to comment on I thought I would create a place to keep a list of those posts as well. This could prove to be a useful tool while sharing with others and a way to keep track or organize my information, and share a Library of information.
Reading for understanding and comprehension finding the truth
Books found online:
Book Reviews by:
My Writings about Books or My Reviews:
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For those books that I've read and wish to comment on I thought I would create a place to keep a list of those posts as well. This could prove to be a useful tool while sharing with others and a way to keep track or organize my information, and share a Library of information.
Reading for understanding and comprehension finding the truth
Books found online:
- A good source for Political information available on the internet can be found here at Liberty Library
- And also; National Criminal Justice Reference Services
- Are you familiar with - The Prophet of Doom?
Book Reviews by:
My Writings about Books or My Reviews:
- The Sun Singer - Malcolm Campbell
I think I'll allow TF to introduce the concept and purpose for this post, and as soon as I'm done reading, I'll add my own comments. - The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini.
- '1984' - George Orwell
- A post inspired by the Republic the writings of Plato from Socrates
- A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
- The Bible
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A conversation at Wikipedia about my PRTQ entry and restoring it
As most of you may know, I've posted before about a deleted Wikipedia entry, It wasn't the first time that an entry of mine was deleted at Wikipedia, in fact every entry I ever made at Wikipedia has been deleted for one reason or another. Here is the latest conversation that has taken place at Wikipedia and this conversation can or could be found at these Talk Pages;
In order to preserve the conversations, I'm pasting them here hopefully they form a cohesive dialogue that is easy to understand. ======= The message that was left on my User talk page was this along with my eventual reply: [edit] Public Radio Talent Quest A tag has been placed on Public Radio Talent Quest, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam. If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.131.10.60 23:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC) [edit]
Yeah Right I checked out your anonymous profile, there is no talk page, you just flexed your muscle to remove my entry like the bully you are. I'm just not smart enough to create a good entry for the intellectuals that wish to control and lord over us poor people trying to contribute to our growing world community. To read more follow this URL: http://communati.com/main/wikipedia of course I'm upset that my entry was deleted. Was I advertising? No I simply provided the information about the contest and a link for people to find out more. What more needed to be done? Not providing a chance to put forth a rebuttal certainly takes away any chance for your offensive behavior to be defended against. Only cowards do things anonymously you're worse than a liar! TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 23:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC) ==
=== User Bfigura intercepted the conversation and is proving to be very helpful these are her comments: With regard to your comments on User_talk:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Please note that the reason that the talk page was not created was because you declined to create it. If you wish to assert the notability (a requirement for inclusion of articles) of an article that has been proposed for deletion, it is your responsibility to do so. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 22:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC). PS: I didn't delete your article, nor did I list it for deletion. Just trying to explain the way the system works. Thanks Bfigura
The talk page that is in question is not the one to reinstate the article, I had no idea that there was a link to do that and after making the above comment found it and followed through, it was more of a hidden link and obscure. So here I am miffed and late, but hey, I'll still defend the article as an article and not spam. What really upset me was when I followed the link or address and if you try it you'll find that the last sentence requests me to go to their talk page which I'm assuming is located at their IP address, "Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.131.10.60 23:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)" where else would I find their talk page? The address doesn't exist, the person making the judgment might not even be a participant, who knows? That is real frustrating, and if you follow my http://communati.com/main/wikipedia link you'll see that I'm not alone in this observation. Knowing this brings down the participation at Wikipedia and prevents valuable information from being included in the site. The question to our community is do we want information or do we not? It seems that only a certain type of person is permitted to make entries, and instead of helping to make the entries good they just get deleted and that is the easy way out. We need to work together. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 23:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting things. But what it sounds like to me is that someone flagged your page for speedy deletion, and since you didn't know any better, you didn't contest it on the talk page because it said the talk page didn't exist. (Which it didn't, because pages don't exist until someone types something onto them -- kinda counter-intuitive, but it's the way Wikipedia is set up). --Bfigura (talk) 00:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Nope I didn't know about how to stop the speedy deletion but that obviously wasn't the real problem of why I am so frustrated. You Missed What I was trying to convey as the real source of my frustration. When I first found out that my entry was deleted and not knowing there was another link, I thought that the last line left for me; to contest, talk about, or talk out this problem was the link that I needed to follow. So once again allow me to post that last line and source of my frustration, ,"Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.131.10.60 23:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)" I went and clicked on the IP address to go to the person's talk page to see if the deletion could be stopped or how I could re-write the article in a better format to be more acceptable. But to my surprise, the IP address leads to a dead end, NO USER exists... How do you contact a non-existent user? Now that is really frustrating! How do you fix anything if you can't communicate? Get it now? TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
However, all of that said, the reason the page was deleted was because someone thought it was spam, as defined here.
Yes, And who is the someone and how do I get in contact with a non-existent user? How can a non-existent user define anything as spam? TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
So how do you avoid getting something marked as spam? First, make sure the subject of the article meets the notability criteria. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, only notable articles are allowed. Second, make sure it's verifiable, as defined here. If the article meets both criteria, and is written in a neutral tone that avoids conflicts of interest, it'll stay. All that said, it's a kind of a bad idea to write an article about something you're personally involved in. (Ie, if I write my own biography, I'll be biased, which makes for a bad article -- see WP:AUTOBIO. Hope all that helps, and isn't too discouraging. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd be more concerned with people deleting material by marking it as spam just to remove entries created in order to punish or violate another person. I understand that trolls exist and it is a shame that good content can be excluded because of the bias or prejudice of an unknown user. Do you understand the problem and do you see the danger in allowing; non-existent, secret, or anonymous users the right to delete or change content tracking such changes might be possible for the administrators but it just isn't worth it to me, if you read through my post at my link that I provided you'll find that the entry wasn't all that important to me, but what is important to me is the fact that an anonymous user was allowed to remove that entry and then get away with out explaining their position. I feel like I've just had something stolen from me, as though I was violated. You wouldn't like to feel that way, and you could probably do something to stop it from happening. And don't tell me that if I don't like it I don't have to participate, I want to be a contributing member, not participating isn't the answer that gives the bullies exactly what they want. Let's work together on making a better world community... TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you don't like the idea of other users reviewing pages, but I should point out that this is the way Wikipedia works. Anyone can nominate any page for deletion, so long as they have a good reason for doing so (see deletion policy). And none of this is actually secret or anonymous. If you click on the history of a page, you can see who made what changes, and when. And if a page has been deleted, you can check the deletion logs to see who deleted it, and why. Now in your case, the page was flagged for deletion by an ip-editor, then deleted by an admin (see this page]. That admin found it to be advertising, and removed the article. If you feel that this was unjust, you can take it to deletion review, and ask that it be undeleted. And as far as people making deletions for poor reasons, or out of hate: don't sweat it too much. There's enough people watching pages flagged for deletion that if someone does nominate pages in bad faith, they get caught and banned from Wikipedia pretty quickly (ex. of watchers: these guys). I hope that helps, if not let me know, or just reply below me (I'll keep an eye on this page for changes). Best, --Bfigura (talk) 00:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I have no problem with others reviewing pages, but I do wish that the IP editor was accessible as they claimed they would be by leaving me the note to contact them about this issue. If 'you' (the IP editor) are honestly identifying an article for deletion 'you' don't just disappear into thin air, that is why I question the integrity of the IP editor, that person (the IP editor) became non-existent putting a cloud over the whole process. How can we trust the integrity of this community? What motivates participation and support to an organization that is so secretive and suspicious in their administration? If you want people to support Wikipedia you need to offer a service so that contributions can be made. Creating a user friendly environment is what all good growing service minded companies should be doing. I'm not trying to give away free advertising, I'm just putting forth the information. Yes, I found the link tonight by accident to re-instate my article, I hope that will be sufficient to get the deletion review to take another look at the entry and reconsider. Thank you for the conversation and the advice. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Best of luck. (I should point out that you can create/leave a note on an ip-editor's talk page, there's just no guarantee the person will read it. But if they are a persistent vandal, then something will get done, sooner or later). --Bfigura (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC) =====
===== Xaosflux deleted this and restored it... and it was deleted again... Talk page 172.131.10.60 Hello? You submitted my entry for deletion? Let's talk about how you've decided that I was advertising instead of submitting information... Am I the only person you targeted? Is that why this page is empty or am I the only one to comment and request that my entry be reconsidered? It is your turn to explain. [[User:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo|TheGreatWhiteBuffalo]] 02:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC) ====
====== From My Talk page by Xaosflux: [edit] Talk:Public Radio Talent Quest Per your request on my userpage, I've undeleted Talk:Public Radio Talent Quest and tagged it to delay for at least 5 days. The Criteria for speedy deletion recognizes that talk pages without associated articles are generally speedily deletable. My deletion was without any bearing related to the deletion of the article (that I did not delete). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. A discussion on a talk page of a deleted article is generally not an effective means of having it restored. Better methods would be to contact the deleting admin directly (perhaps asking if they would consider listing on WP:AFD instead) or bringing it up at Deletion Review. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 03:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You :) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Please note, this page was deleted again, as a talk page without an article by Pascal.Tesson (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves). — xaosflux Talk 16:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Arrrgggghhhhh! If it quacks like a duck it just might be a duck? How do I talk about something that doesn't exist, and if I missed my mark this deletion should be restored. Thanks Xaosflux TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC) ====
====== From Xaosflux's talk page: Public Radio Talent Quest (Talk page) I just started a discussion trying to figure out why my entry was deleted and you deleted my discussion. See my user talk page about how my entry came up for deletion. Then look again at the entry that is in question, that is if you can, I can't read any discussion or anything about my entry as they are all deleted and I can't view anything. No discussion is a complete offense and not allowing a defense to support my entry is like stealing something that was mine to begin with. I shared the information with you and the whole global community that might be interested in knowing about an item. That is what encyclopedias do isn't it? Please restore my conversation and point out the error in my writing. If you can restore my conversation and my entry and let's talk about how it doesn't comply with the terms of the site. I'll bet that if you go back to the beginning you'll find that it was deleted out of a prejudice and not because of content. But of course you probably know more than anyone else. You don't have to work with people you just delete material and exclude a dialogue and diplomacy. We could make the world a better place, if you want to, but destroying all will not accomplish your goals. Being destructive never brought about good growth. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Replied on your talk. — xaosflux Talk 03:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Per your request on my userpage, I've undeleted Talk:Public Radio Talent Quest and tagged it to delay for at least 5 days. The Criteria for speedy deletion recognizes that talk pages without associated articles are generally speedily deletable. My deletion was without any bearing related to the deletion of the article (that I did not delete). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. A discussion on a talk page of a deleted article is generally not an effective means of having it restored. Better methods would be to contact the deleting admin directly (perhaps asking if they would consider listing on WP:AFD instead) or bringing it up at Deletion Review. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 03:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You :) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC) =====
===== Professor Pascal.Tesson started the whole process and here are those conversations. =====
===== Public Radio Talent Quest Mr. Pascal. Tesson, Hello, It has come to my attention that you deleted as spam my entry that I wrote about the Public Radio Talent Quest. Would you kindly take a moment to discuss this action with me, first by restoring the entry so that we can see where exactly the errors of my ways actually exist? I've placed a rebuttal to the deletion of my entry on the article talk page and in my own talk page I question the validity of a non-existent person that targeted my entry for deletion. I went to the supposed talk page of the IP editor who flagged my entry for deletion. As you see through (read) my conversations, and if you really research my 'links' that I provide and all of my thoughts about this entry, my request to have the entry restored is not because I love the material that I've cited, or the site that I've participated in. It is the citation that is important, the information provided is legitimate, at least in my mind it made a perfect encyclopedic entry by stating only the facts. In a world where everyone is selling everything, I understand how everything looks like an advertisement and we are all buyers and sellers. But this was an entry about information, and contributing to this community that information. Please restore my entry, or share with me, why it needs to be completely rewritten. Thank you for your attention concerning this matter. Please consider the greater good. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Pascal.Tesson, I've left you a reply on my talk page. Thank You for your prompt response, as for the sense of frustration that you read, that happens when a person is violated and victimized one too many times... I could take you on a tour where I can prove the abuse actually exists. If you have never been abused you might not understand. I didn't deserve the scars that I carry. As a result stepping into the world of global communication and community participant has been a slow process. My paper on the Evolution of Religion is deliberately left opaque for two reasons, one is that the writing is original a violation of Wikipedia rules, second I'm just a lowly American who is the violated victim lacking constitutional rights; a completely foreign concept that goes against what I've been taught. [Edit inclusion] Okay Professor Sir, Are you going to delete the entire Wikipedia Site? A lot of articles could be considered; spam, for promotion, and advertising. No matter how well worded, or if the entry encourages others to participate; we should be working together to build up the community. A good person helps people understand. The job of teachers, and professors, 'is' to share knowledge. Since you are such an intelligent person I have a few questions; "have you ever considered the value of the entire planet?" You'll probably give me some relative answer as the question can only be answered relative to 'a value' that is different for each individual. That begs the question, "what is the real value of money?" Now for the final thought or question, "If money really has no value, then why do we make people starve and fight?" I sure do hope everyone sleeps well... Surrounded with Angels... TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC) ======
==== Ending with My User Talk page: [edit] Public Radio Talent Quest Hello GWB. I did delete the page and yes I did feel that it read like spam, albeit not the worst I've seen around here. Nevertheless, you have to calm down. What's this nonsense about feeling violated by the deletion? It was a two-line article providing no content besides an external link, it was not categorized and it was orphaned which means that in all likelihood nobody ever even read the article before Alaibot tagged it as uncategorized. The article was not deleted because someone is trying to "punish you for participating in Wikipedia" and this is not part of some great conspiracy. I see you also took it extremely personally when the article Evolution of Religion was deleted a while back but that won't get you anywhere. You can take the whole thing to deletion review but the deletion was appropriate. Pascal.Tesson 06:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Pascal.Tesson Yes, the deletions of my entries are concerning to me as you have noticed, and this one was orphaned as I was hoping that of the 1,450+ participants in the contest at least one other or a few would take interest or enough interest in their contest to augment the article with the needed information to complete the entry. No I didn't create the article for advertising but as I've stated all along it is simply a statement of fact. The contest is currently running the contest exists and a number of people participated. My own reason for dropping participation has to do with the fact that I've seen some rather blatant abuses to interfere with participants. So my desire to nurture and watch this entry was lost as a result of what I viewed as corruption in their system. What I never expected was to see the entry deleted as I tried to be very careful in how I created the entry to keep it to just the facts, neutral and succinct. The entry was the beginning of a larger article that would follow when all of the results are finalized. Again, I was really hoping that others would join in adding content and I was watching for community participation. So yes, I was and am disappointed that the article has been speedily deleted and I am willing to defend the inclusion of the entry even though I feel personally attached to the entry as the creator of the entry, I certainly would welcome others to add and coach people in how to make a better and more complete entry. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
As I said, you can take it to deletion review. But you're going to have to tone down the victimization act. You are not being persecuted: take it to deletion review, make a sound argument that the article should be restored and trust that the Wikipedia community can make the right decision on whether or not to undelete that entry. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 03:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm really glad that you didn't see my tone as offensive when you went back to your talk page, and I thank you for your reply below... :) Sometimes the tone you apply is really a tone in your own mind, but you know that already don't you? ;) I meant to mention that before, I was certainly hoping you would consider the written material in a different light. Peace TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi again GWB. I understand that you're upset about the page being deleted, but having read the posts in question, Pascal is right: your tone isn't really appropriate. It won't help anything, and will only probably make this worse. It would be much more productive to take a sounds case to Deletion Review. (Or, if you're interested, I'd be happy to help you put together a new article that would be more likely to not get deleted). Best, --Bfigura (talk) 03:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Bfigura, :) I would like your help and would greatly appreciate a few pointers, my time is limited tonight and if the page is available and we can corroborate on this over the next couple of days I would love to try to fix the entry and make it right. Thank you for that offer, and any advice or direction that you can point me in would be greatly appreciated. :) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Just leave a note on my talk page if you want help. But if you'd like to work on a draft, you can create a page in your userspace (which is generally safe from deletion unless you're being offensive or something), by adding a slash after your username, and typing a title. Like so: User:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo/Draft. --Bfigura (talk) 04:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You Bfigura, Thank you very much :) That will be very helpful, and hopefully we will grow a global community together. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on philosophy. However, I don't quite understand what the value of the planet or the value of money has to do with the deletion of a two-line article about some obscure radio contest which you happen to participate in. As I have already told you twice and as Bfigura has also told you, you can submit the article to deletion review. Pascal.Tesson 04:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Wow! Professor you are fast and you beat me to my reply here ;) Actually I'm not at all inspired to take it to the deletion team I would rather work with someone to tweak the bugs out of that entry and learn to make a better entry that I might do another that I have in mind. What I don't want is to have every entry I make, deleted. I'd rather learn how to do it right. :) P.S. The value of the Earth is directly related to the number of poor that will sleep tonight hungry and with out a home. Some deservedly so and others are victims that need a hand up. From there we can work on the issue of war, but that would be a much longer discussion than I have time to type tonight. ;) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC) PPS, Those questions are related to a discussion I was having with another person from Texas, he was posting stuff about the American GDP and according to the numbers that he offered the total GDP would be around $1,437(trillion) I doubt the entire globe has a GDP of that much in fact the worth of the world might not even reach that value, but I'm not really sure where to begin to make an accurate calculation. That would be nearly 1.5 Quadrillion dollars wouldn't it?TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I've copied the contents here. What you need to do is make sure that a) the content is properly sourced b) the article is categorized appropriately c) the article demonstrates sufficient notability. If that can be done, then I'm certainly open to recreating the article. Pascal.Tesson 04:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You Pascal.Tesson, Thank you very much :)TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo" ===
==== So with a little luck I might be able to recreate my entry and know the correct way to do that to do one for us, with luck and a prayer, I'll get all three entries entered and they will stay...
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo#Public_Radio_Talent_Quest
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pascal.Tesson
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Xaosflux
In order to preserve the conversations, I'm pasting them here hopefully they form a cohesive dialogue that is easy to understand. ======= The message that was left on my User talk page was this along with my eventual reply: [edit] Public Radio Talent Quest A tag has been placed on Public Radio Talent Quest, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam. If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.131.10.60 23:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC) [edit]
Yeah Right I checked out your anonymous profile, there is no talk page, you just flexed your muscle to remove my entry like the bully you are. I'm just not smart enough to create a good entry for the intellectuals that wish to control and lord over us poor people trying to contribute to our growing world community. To read more follow this URL: http://communati.com/main/wikipedia of course I'm upset that my entry was deleted. Was I advertising? No I simply provided the information about the contest and a link for people to find out more. What more needed to be done? Not providing a chance to put forth a rebuttal certainly takes away any chance for your offensive behavior to be defended against. Only cowards do things anonymously you're worse than a liar! TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 23:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC) ==
=== User Bfigura intercepted the conversation and is proving to be very helpful these are her comments: With regard to your comments on User_talk:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Please note that the reason that the talk page was not created was because you declined to create it. If you wish to assert the notability (a requirement for inclusion of articles) of an article that has been proposed for deletion, it is your responsibility to do so. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 22:38, 2 September 2007 (UTC). PS: I didn't delete your article, nor did I list it for deletion. Just trying to explain the way the system works. Thanks Bfigura
The talk page that is in question is not the one to reinstate the article, I had no idea that there was a link to do that and after making the above comment found it and followed through, it was more of a hidden link and obscure. So here I am miffed and late, but hey, I'll still defend the article as an article and not spam. What really upset me was when I followed the link or address and if you try it you'll find that the last sentence requests me to go to their talk page which I'm assuming is located at their IP address, "Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.131.10.60 23:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)" where else would I find their talk page? The address doesn't exist, the person making the judgment might not even be a participant, who knows? That is real frustrating, and if you follow my http://communati.com/main/wikipedia link you'll see that I'm not alone in this observation. Knowing this brings down the participation at Wikipedia and prevents valuable information from being included in the site. The question to our community is do we want information or do we not? It seems that only a certain type of person is permitted to make entries, and instead of helping to make the entries good they just get deleted and that is the easy way out. We need to work together. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 23:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say. Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting things. But what it sounds like to me is that someone flagged your page for speedy deletion, and since you didn't know any better, you didn't contest it on the talk page because it said the talk page didn't exist. (Which it didn't, because pages don't exist until someone types something onto them -- kinda counter-intuitive, but it's the way Wikipedia is set up). --Bfigura (talk) 00:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Nope I didn't know about how to stop the speedy deletion but that obviously wasn't the real problem of why I am so frustrated. You Missed What I was trying to convey as the real source of my frustration. When I first found out that my entry was deleted and not knowing there was another link, I thought that the last line left for me; to contest, talk about, or talk out this problem was the link that I needed to follow. So once again allow me to post that last line and source of my frustration, ,"Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 172.131.10.60 23:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)" I went and clicked on the IP address to go to the person's talk page to see if the deletion could be stopped or how I could re-write the article in a better format to be more acceptable. But to my surprise, the IP address leads to a dead end, NO USER exists... How do you contact a non-existent user? Now that is really frustrating! How do you fix anything if you can't communicate? Get it now? TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
However, all of that said, the reason the page was deleted was because someone thought it was spam, as defined here.
Yes, And who is the someone and how do I get in contact with a non-existent user? How can a non-existent user define anything as spam? TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
So how do you avoid getting something marked as spam? First, make sure the subject of the article meets the notability criteria. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, only notable articles are allowed. Second, make sure it's verifiable, as defined here. If the article meets both criteria, and is written in a neutral tone that avoids conflicts of interest, it'll stay. All that said, it's a kind of a bad idea to write an article about something you're personally involved in. (Ie, if I write my own biography, I'll be biased, which makes for a bad article -- see WP:AUTOBIO. Hope all that helps, and isn't too discouraging. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 23:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd be more concerned with people deleting material by marking it as spam just to remove entries created in order to punish or violate another person. I understand that trolls exist and it is a shame that good content can be excluded because of the bias or prejudice of an unknown user. Do you understand the problem and do you see the danger in allowing; non-existent, secret, or anonymous users the right to delete or change content tracking such changes might be possible for the administrators but it just isn't worth it to me, if you read through my post at my link that I provided you'll find that the entry wasn't all that important to me, but what is important to me is the fact that an anonymous user was allowed to remove that entry and then get away with out explaining their position. I feel like I've just had something stolen from me, as though I was violated. You wouldn't like to feel that way, and you could probably do something to stop it from happening. And don't tell me that if I don't like it I don't have to participate, I want to be a contributing member, not participating isn't the answer that gives the bullies exactly what they want. Let's work together on making a better world community... TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you don't like the idea of other users reviewing pages, but I should point out that this is the way Wikipedia works. Anyone can nominate any page for deletion, so long as they have a good reason for doing so (see deletion policy). And none of this is actually secret or anonymous. If you click on the history of a page, you can see who made what changes, and when. And if a page has been deleted, you can check the deletion logs to see who deleted it, and why. Now in your case, the page was flagged for deletion by an ip-editor, then deleted by an admin (see this page]. That admin found it to be advertising, and removed the article. If you feel that this was unjust, you can take it to deletion review, and ask that it be undeleted. And as far as people making deletions for poor reasons, or out of hate: don't sweat it too much. There's enough people watching pages flagged for deletion that if someone does nominate pages in bad faith, they get caught and banned from Wikipedia pretty quickly (ex. of watchers: these guys). I hope that helps, if not let me know, or just reply below me (I'll keep an eye on this page for changes). Best, --Bfigura (talk) 00:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I have no problem with others reviewing pages, but I do wish that the IP editor was accessible as they claimed they would be by leaving me the note to contact them about this issue. If 'you' (the IP editor) are honestly identifying an article for deletion 'you' don't just disappear into thin air, that is why I question the integrity of the IP editor, that person (the IP editor) became non-existent putting a cloud over the whole process. How can we trust the integrity of this community? What motivates participation and support to an organization that is so secretive and suspicious in their administration? If you want people to support Wikipedia you need to offer a service so that contributions can be made. Creating a user friendly environment is what all good growing service minded companies should be doing. I'm not trying to give away free advertising, I'm just putting forth the information. Yes, I found the link tonight by accident to re-instate my article, I hope that will be sufficient to get the deletion review to take another look at the entry and reconsider. Thank you for the conversation and the advice. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 00:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Best of luck. (I should point out that you can create/leave a note on an ip-editor's talk page, there's just no guarantee the person will read it. But if they are a persistent vandal, then something will get done, sooner or later). --Bfigura (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC) =====
===== Xaosflux deleted this and restored it... and it was deleted again... Talk page 172.131.10.60 Hello? You submitted my entry for deletion? Let's talk about how you've decided that I was advertising instead of submitting information... Am I the only person you targeted? Is that why this page is empty or am I the only one to comment and request that my entry be reconsidered? It is your turn to explain. [[User:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo|TheGreatWhiteBuffalo]] 02:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC) ====
====== From My Talk page by Xaosflux: [edit] Talk:Public Radio Talent Quest Per your request on my userpage, I've undeleted Talk:Public Radio Talent Quest and tagged it to delay for at least 5 days. The Criteria for speedy deletion recognizes that talk pages without associated articles are generally speedily deletable. My deletion was without any bearing related to the deletion of the article (that I did not delete). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. A discussion on a talk page of a deleted article is generally not an effective means of having it restored. Better methods would be to contact the deleting admin directly (perhaps asking if they would consider listing on WP:AFD instead) or bringing it up at Deletion Review. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 03:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You :) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Please note, this page was deleted again, as a talk page without an article by Pascal.Tesson (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves). — xaosflux Talk 16:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Arrrgggghhhhh! If it quacks like a duck it just might be a duck? How do I talk about something that doesn't exist, and if I missed my mark this deletion should be restored. Thanks Xaosflux TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC) ====
====== From Xaosflux's talk page: Public Radio Talent Quest (Talk page) I just started a discussion trying to figure out why my entry was deleted and you deleted my discussion. See my user talk page about how my entry came up for deletion. Then look again at the entry that is in question, that is if you can, I can't read any discussion or anything about my entry as they are all deleted and I can't view anything. No discussion is a complete offense and not allowing a defense to support my entry is like stealing something that was mine to begin with. I shared the information with you and the whole global community that might be interested in knowing about an item. That is what encyclopedias do isn't it? Please restore my conversation and point out the error in my writing. If you can restore my conversation and my entry and let's talk about how it doesn't comply with the terms of the site. I'll bet that if you go back to the beginning you'll find that it was deleted out of a prejudice and not because of content. But of course you probably know more than anyone else. You don't have to work with people you just delete material and exclude a dialogue and diplomacy. We could make the world a better place, if you want to, but destroying all will not accomplish your goals. Being destructive never brought about good growth. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Replied on your talk. — xaosflux Talk 03:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC) Per your request on my userpage, I've undeleted Talk:Public Radio Talent Quest and tagged it to delay for at least 5 days. The Criteria for speedy deletion recognizes that talk pages without associated articles are generally speedily deletable. My deletion was without any bearing related to the deletion of the article (that I did not delete). Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. A discussion on a talk page of a deleted article is generally not an effective means of having it restored. Better methods would be to contact the deleting admin directly (perhaps asking if they would consider listing on WP:AFD instead) or bringing it up at Deletion Review. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 03:34, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You :) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC) =====
===== Professor Pascal.Tesson started the whole process and here are those conversations. =====
===== Public Radio Talent Quest Mr. Pascal. Tesson, Hello, It has come to my attention that you deleted as spam my entry that I wrote about the Public Radio Talent Quest. Would you kindly take a moment to discuss this action with me, first by restoring the entry so that we can see where exactly the errors of my ways actually exist? I've placed a rebuttal to the deletion of my entry on the article talk page and in my own talk page I question the validity of a non-existent person that targeted my entry for deletion. I went to the supposed talk page of the IP editor who flagged my entry for deletion. As you see through (read) my conversations, and if you really research my 'links' that I provide and all of my thoughts about this entry, my request to have the entry restored is not because I love the material that I've cited, or the site that I've participated in. It is the citation that is important, the information provided is legitimate, at least in my mind it made a perfect encyclopedic entry by stating only the facts. In a world where everyone is selling everything, I understand how everything looks like an advertisement and we are all buyers and sellers. But this was an entry about information, and contributing to this community that information. Please restore my entry, or share with me, why it needs to be completely rewritten. Thank you for your attention concerning this matter. Please consider the greater good. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Pascal.Tesson, I've left you a reply on my talk page. Thank You for your prompt response, as for the sense of frustration that you read, that happens when a person is violated and victimized one too many times... I could take you on a tour where I can prove the abuse actually exists. If you have never been abused you might not understand. I didn't deserve the scars that I carry. As a result stepping into the world of global communication and community participant has been a slow process. My paper on the Evolution of Religion is deliberately left opaque for two reasons, one is that the writing is original a violation of Wikipedia rules, second I'm just a lowly American who is the violated victim lacking constitutional rights; a completely foreign concept that goes against what I've been taught. [Edit inclusion] Okay Professor Sir, Are you going to delete the entire Wikipedia Site? A lot of articles could be considered; spam, for promotion, and advertising. No matter how well worded, or if the entry encourages others to participate; we should be working together to build up the community. A good person helps people understand. The job of teachers, and professors, 'is' to share knowledge. Since you are such an intelligent person I have a few questions; "have you ever considered the value of the entire planet?" You'll probably give me some relative answer as the question can only be answered relative to 'a value' that is different for each individual. That begs the question, "what is the real value of money?" Now for the final thought or question, "If money really has no value, then why do we make people starve and fight?" I sure do hope everyone sleeps well... Surrounded with Angels... TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 03:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC) ======
==== Ending with My User Talk page: [edit] Public Radio Talent Quest Hello GWB. I did delete the page and yes I did feel that it read like spam, albeit not the worst I've seen around here. Nevertheless, you have to calm down. What's this nonsense about feeling violated by the deletion? It was a two-line article providing no content besides an external link, it was not categorized and it was orphaned which means that in all likelihood nobody ever even read the article before Alaibot tagged it as uncategorized. The article was not deleted because someone is trying to "punish you for participating in Wikipedia" and this is not part of some great conspiracy. I see you also took it extremely personally when the article Evolution of Religion was deleted a while back but that won't get you anywhere. You can take the whole thing to deletion review but the deletion was appropriate. Pascal.Tesson 06:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Pascal.Tesson Yes, the deletions of my entries are concerning to me as you have noticed, and this one was orphaned as I was hoping that of the 1,450+ participants in the contest at least one other or a few would take interest or enough interest in their contest to augment the article with the needed information to complete the entry. No I didn't create the article for advertising but as I've stated all along it is simply a statement of fact. The contest is currently running the contest exists and a number of people participated. My own reason for dropping participation has to do with the fact that I've seen some rather blatant abuses to interfere with participants. So my desire to nurture and watch this entry was lost as a result of what I viewed as corruption in their system. What I never expected was to see the entry deleted as I tried to be very careful in how I created the entry to keep it to just the facts, neutral and succinct. The entry was the beginning of a larger article that would follow when all of the results are finalized. Again, I was really hoping that others would join in adding content and I was watching for community participation. So yes, I was and am disappointed that the article has been speedily deleted and I am willing to defend the inclusion of the entry even though I feel personally attached to the entry as the creator of the entry, I certainly would welcome others to add and coach people in how to make a better and more complete entry. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
As I said, you can take it to deletion review. But you're going to have to tone down the victimization act. You are not being persecuted: take it to deletion review, make a sound argument that the article should be restored and trust that the Wikipedia community can make the right decision on whether or not to undelete that entry. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 03:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm really glad that you didn't see my tone as offensive when you went back to your talk page, and I thank you for your reply below... :) Sometimes the tone you apply is really a tone in your own mind, but you know that already don't you? ;) I meant to mention that before, I was certainly hoping you would consider the written material in a different light. Peace TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi again GWB. I understand that you're upset about the page being deleted, but having read the posts in question, Pascal is right: your tone isn't really appropriate. It won't help anything, and will only probably make this worse. It would be much more productive to take a sounds case to Deletion Review. (Or, if you're interested, I'd be happy to help you put together a new article that would be more likely to not get deleted). Best, --Bfigura (talk) 03:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Bfigura, :) I would like your help and would greatly appreciate a few pointers, my time is limited tonight and if the page is available and we can corroborate on this over the next couple of days I would love to try to fix the entry and make it right. Thank you for that offer, and any advice or direction that you can point me in would be greatly appreciated. :) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Just leave a note on my talk page if you want help. But if you'd like to work on a draft, you can create a page in your userspace (which is generally safe from deletion unless you're being offensive or something), by adding a slash after your username, and typing a title. Like so: User:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo/Draft. --Bfigura (talk) 04:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You Bfigura, Thank you very much :) That will be very helpful, and hopefully we will grow a global community together. TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on philosophy. However, I don't quite understand what the value of the planet or the value of money has to do with the deletion of a two-line article about some obscure radio contest which you happen to participate in. As I have already told you twice and as Bfigura has also told you, you can submit the article to deletion review. Pascal.Tesson 04:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Wow! Professor you are fast and you beat me to my reply here ;) Actually I'm not at all inspired to take it to the deletion team I would rather work with someone to tweak the bugs out of that entry and learn to make a better entry that I might do another that I have in mind. What I don't want is to have every entry I make, deleted. I'd rather learn how to do it right. :) P.S. The value of the Earth is directly related to the number of poor that will sleep tonight hungry and with out a home. Some deservedly so and others are victims that need a hand up. From there we can work on the issue of war, but that would be a much longer discussion than I have time to type tonight. ;) TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC) PPS, Those questions are related to a discussion I was having with another person from Texas, he was posting stuff about the American GDP and according to the numbers that he offered the total GDP would be around $1,437(trillion) I doubt the entire globe has a GDP of that much in fact the worth of the world might not even reach that value, but I'm not really sure where to begin to make an accurate calculation. That would be nearly 1.5 Quadrillion dollars wouldn't it?TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 04:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I've copied the contents here. What you need to do is make sure that a) the content is properly sourced b) the article is categorized appropriately c) the article demonstrates sufficient notability. If that can be done, then I'm certainly open to recreating the article. Pascal.Tesson 04:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank You Pascal.Tesson, Thank you very much :)TheGreatWhiteBuffalo 02:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheGreatWhiteBuffalo" ===
==== So with a little luck I might be able to recreate my entry and know the correct way to do that to do one for us, with luck and a prayer, I'll get all three entries entered and they will stay...
Wikipedia, Public Radio Talent Quest, PRTQ
Wikipedia, Public Radio Talent Quest, PRTQ
Okay, last night I went to Wikipedia to check on something I wrote as an entry for PRTQ, it was deleted...
How frustrating is that?
Who deleted my entry?
They left me a message why they deleted my entry they called it advertising which is supposed to be against the rules. Huh? Something exists I participate in it and making an entry that describes this contest isn't advertising, it is making an entry about what is going on. I didn't ask people to come over and check it out, I just put in the info, the details, facts ma'am and only the facts... LOL
ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
I was going to post my entry here, to show that it wasn't anything other than providing information about what this contest is or was, unfortunately I thought that it was so inoculate that I didn't save the entry I created. As you read the comments below, you'll find that I'm more upset about the action of this individual to remove my entry than I am about the contest and the entry itself, the contest was fixed and flawed at first I thought it was a cool idea then I saw how the contest was manipulated. I don't like things that are so extreme that they violate individual and corporate rights.
This fool left behind an IP address, now who does this address belong to?
What is the definition of a phrase? Where do you go to find out?
What is the source of evil? Man is not kind that is the source of evil, I have found much evil in our world.
Evil is not the source of,
(edited Sept. 04 10:35)
LOL... I didn't even finish my thought, but here is the result of asking questions and venting my frustrations and disappointment at Wikipedia:
A follow up and possible resolution.
Contests and Submissions
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Okay, last night I went to Wikipedia to check on something I wrote as an entry for PRTQ, it was deleted...
How frustrating is that?
Who deleted my entry?
They left me a message why they deleted my entry they called it advertising which is supposed to be against the rules. Huh? Something exists I participate in it and making an entry that describes this contest isn't advertising, it is making an entry about what is going on. I didn't ask people to come over and check it out, I just put in the info, the details, facts ma'am and only the facts... LOL
ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!
I was going to post my entry here, to show that it wasn't anything other than providing information about what this contest is or was, unfortunately I thought that it was so inoculate that I didn't save the entry I created. As you read the comments below, you'll find that I'm more upset about the action of this individual to remove my entry than I am about the contest and the entry itself, the contest was fixed and flawed at first I thought it was a cool idea then I saw how the contest was manipulated. I don't like things that are so extreme that they violate individual and corporate rights.
This fool left behind an IP address, now who does this address belong to?
What is the definition of a phrase? Where do you go to find out?
What is the source of evil? Man is not kind that is the source of evil, I have found much evil in our world.
Evil is not the source of,
(edited Sept. 04 10:35)
LOL... I didn't even finish my thought, but here is the result of asking questions and venting my frustrations and disappointment at Wikipedia:
A follow up and possible resolution.
Contests and Submissions
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An Entry for Wikipedia (for Communati)
An Entry for Wikipedia
How about a little Wiki help
I've been a bit busy today at Wikipedia.com. As you might remember I posted about a deleted entry that I submitted, and I was thinking that just maybe if I could resolve that issue it might be easier to post an entry about Communati with the permission of our founder of course.
But first I'd like to share with you what I have come up with and ask if any of you have suggestions on what should be changed. I guess I'm looking to edit my entry and looking for a collaborative effort.
Here is what I have so far...
COMMUNATI: is a new Internet site developed to build a diverse community offering social interaction through blogging or posting entries on a message board. The site is found HERE: The founder of Communati.com [1] is a current participant helping to build the community and encouraging people into becoming writers, together we are expanding our horizons. Authors that are interested in getting published and publishers looking for good writers will have opportunities to buy or sell services through this forum.
The founder of InspiredAuthor encouraged the founder of Communati to build this site. Communati is built on a similar platform after another site called, WritingUp which failed or suffered constant crashes. Many of the members of WritingUp have joined Communati and the Communati site continues to grow as the word is going out far and wide. The sense of community and feel of being part of 'something greater' has been established at the Communati site where people are meeting with other people.
Reference
Communati
P.S. GracePub - Your link will be added in good time, first I have to get over a couple of hurdles... One foot in front of the other, nice and easy... See I'm trying to move forward... :)
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How about a little Wiki help
I've been a bit busy today at Wikipedia.com. As you might remember I posted about a deleted entry that I submitted, and I was thinking that just maybe if I could resolve that issue it might be easier to post an entry about Communati with the permission of our founder of course.
But first I'd like to share with you what I have come up with and ask if any of you have suggestions on what should be changed. I guess I'm looking to edit my entry and looking for a collaborative effort.
Here is what I have so far...
COMMUNATI: is a new Internet site developed to build a diverse community offering social interaction through blogging or posting entries on a message board. The site is found HERE: The founder of Communati.com [1] is a current participant helping to build the community and encouraging people into becoming writers, together we are expanding our horizons. Authors that are interested in getting published and publishers looking for good writers will have opportunities to buy or sell services through this forum.
The founder of InspiredAuthor encouraged the founder of Communati to build this site. Communati is built on a similar platform after another site called, WritingUp which failed or suffered constant crashes. Many of the members of WritingUp have joined Communati and the Communati site continues to grow as the word is going out far and wide. The sense of community and feel of being part of 'something greater' has been established at the Communati site where people are meeting with other people.
Reference
Communati
P.S. GracePub - Your link will be added in good time, first I have to get over a couple of hurdles... One foot in front of the other, nice and easy... See I'm trying to move forward... :)
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Tuesday, October 27, 2009
Found 6-3-09 When I googled Kenneth Deatelhauser
Take note that in the 30 web links that I just searched for I found two of my own writings about Judge Kenneth Deatelhauser the links are live and working to my surprise.
web results
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Sunday, October 25, 2009
A picture and the story...
I did manage to get the picture of the type of truck I was driving, when I became the victim of the lie. So now when I talk about driving a truck you can see it really is a truck that I was driving... Nice Clean or Nyce Crete? You can view the Image here: Insignificantly sized truck.
For the story of the witness falsely accused and convicted by a lying detective that has lied in other court rooms, you can read my outline of the accident that happened and how I wasn't involved in that accident here: The Accident and my Conduct
You can read what happened in District Court, here: What happened in District Court?
After District Court I hired a lawyer and on his direction filed an appeal to County Court you can view the complete Transcript at my Blog found here: TGWBMyStory or Read the Excerpts that I'm providing here: About the Transcripts I did keep a time line journal of the process of all that was happening in trying to clear my name of these false allegations, the time line can be found here: Time Line of Events
Ten days after county court I found myself in the psychiatric ward of one hospital and sent to another a little further away from home. I was being forced medications because the church didn't want to help expose the truth about what was going on in our court system. As a result of the actions of the church and the lies and malpractices that are involved in this case, I filed an action in the Eastern Federal Court of Philadelphia here is the Complaint that I filed including the list of all the people I filed against including the East Swamp Mennonite church and it's Staff! Complaint filed in Eastern Federal District Court And here is the reply from the Eastern Federal District Court: Court case denied
On Tuesday 7-31-07 I contacted the United States Supreme Court, the clerk Pamela gave me the proverbial run around; the bureaucratic ring around the rosy, as she told me they had no jurisdiction over this case that it must come to them from the lower courts and if I don't understand what the lower court meant that I would have to contact the lower court to get a proper explanation. As I concluded my call with the clerk of the court I once again felt very violated. As though I didn't do enough research or homework, when I know I did make the appropriate calls and inquiries.
I know what the shell game is and how it works, diverting a person's attention from one place and trying to miss direct us onto other topics or subjects that have no bearing on the first conversation. Switching tracks or switching gears, diversionary tactics are a sign of a cover up and an unwillingness to help. On Friday 8-03-07 I might have found the one resource that I most need. Once again, I'm waiting to see what the future holds. This could be a very important key. If not, I will still press on...
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For the story of the witness falsely accused and convicted by a lying detective that has lied in other court rooms, you can read my outline of the accident that happened and how I wasn't involved in that accident here: The Accident and my Conduct
You can read what happened in District Court, here: What happened in District Court?
After District Court I hired a lawyer and on his direction filed an appeal to County Court you can view the complete Transcript at my Blog found here: TGWBMyStory or Read the Excerpts that I'm providing here: About the Transcripts I did keep a time line journal of the process of all that was happening in trying to clear my name of these false allegations, the time line can be found here: Time Line of Events
Ten days after county court I found myself in the psychiatric ward of one hospital and sent to another a little further away from home. I was being forced medications because the church didn't want to help expose the truth about what was going on in our court system. As a result of the actions of the church and the lies and malpractices that are involved in this case, I filed an action in the Eastern Federal Court of Philadelphia here is the Complaint that I filed including the list of all the people I filed against including the East Swamp Mennonite church and it's Staff! Complaint filed in Eastern Federal District Court And here is the reply from the Eastern Federal District Court: Court case denied
On Tuesday 7-31-07 I contacted the United States Supreme Court, the clerk Pamela gave me the proverbial run around; the bureaucratic ring around the rosy, as she told me they had no jurisdiction over this case that it must come to them from the lower courts and if I don't understand what the lower court meant that I would have to contact the lower court to get a proper explanation. As I concluded my call with the clerk of the court I once again felt very violated. As though I didn't do enough research or homework, when I know I did make the appropriate calls and inquiries.
I know what the shell game is and how it works, diverting a person's attention from one place and trying to miss direct us onto other topics or subjects that have no bearing on the first conversation. Switching tracks or switching gears, diversionary tactics are a sign of a cover up and an unwillingness to help. On Friday 8-03-07 I might have found the one resource that I most need. Once again, I'm waiting to see what the future holds. This could be a very important key. If not, I will still press on...
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Actually,I don't know what the young guy said or did...on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 11:31am
I was looking for my writings on attending the court hearing as a witness to this event, and what ever words the young man used it wasn't appropriate for the older man to pull the younger man into the middle of the parking lot and to kneel on the younger man's throat. I don't blame the young guy for getting back up quite angry after being so violated and punching out the back side window of the Durango was mild in response. What really gets me is the attitude of the District Justice Robert Roth. He lowered the older man's fine, the punishment for the older man was already half as much as the younger man and the judge says, "I don't know what is wrong here in America." I think I know what is wrong, these two bozo's paid less than half as much for brawling in the street in front of my family and others as I had to pay for being accused of saying something that someone else said. The fine of the younger man was $100.00. The fine of the older man was $50.00 reduced to $25.00 on challenge to the charges his punishment was reduced by 50%. Now for me, my fine was $200.00 for a crime that someone else committed, and on apeal my fine was increased to the maximum of $300.00 Any one else have a problem with this picture? I sure do... Harold Borek is working with the Psychiatric community to help people with mental disorders; do you suppose the problem is that all of the judges and doctors are creating their very own business raping America through violating the innocent? Once violated you get deemed a mental incompetent and then you are stripped of your wealth and dignity. Nice little scam... Worth millions... And if a few people die or become homeless so what? This is America, there are masters who must be obeyed and there are bullies that will steal your lunch money. Hungry? Slave... What does you case is denied based on your financial statement really mean? Soon as I find my follow up on this event, I'll post the story I wrote about that court hearing. I'm sure I wrote it up and in time I'll remember where it is stored. My archiving system broke down... :(
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Actually,I don't know what the young guy said or did...on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 11:31am
I was looking for my writings on attending the court hearing as a witness to this event, and what ever words the young man used it wasn't appropriate for the older man to pull the younger man into the middle of the parking lot and to kneel on the younger man's throat. I don't blame the young guy for getting back up quite angry after being so violated and punching out the back side window of the Durango was mild in response. What really gets me is the attitude of the District Justice Robert Roth. He lowered the older man's fine, the punishment for the older man was already half as much as the younger man and the judge says, "I don't know what is wrong here in America." I think I know what is wrong, these two bozo's paid less than half as much for brawling in the street in front of my family and others as I had to pay for being accused of saying something that someone else said. The fine of the younger man was $100.00. The fine of the older man was $50.00 reduced to $25.00 on challenge to the charges his punishment was reduced by 50%. Now for me, my fine was $200.00 for a crime that someone else committed, and on apeal my fine was increased to the maximum of $300.00 Any one else have a problem with this picture? I sure do... Harold Borek is working with the Psychiatric community to help people with mental disorders; do you suppose the problem is that all of the judges and doctors are creating their very own business raping America through violating the innocent? Once violated you get deemed a mental incompetent and then you are stripped of your wealth and dignity. Nice little scam... Worth millions... And if a few people die or become homeless so what? This is America, there are masters who must be obeyed and there are bullies that will steal your lunch money. Hungry? Slave... What does you case is denied based on your financial statement really mean? Soon as I find my follow up on this event, I'll post the story I wrote about that court hearing. I'm sure I wrote it up and in time I'll remember where it is stored. My archiving system broke down... :(
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Confession to Eunha Kim 7-14-2003 and his reply
This is a letter sent to Eunha Kim 7-14-2003 and below is his reply...
Evidence and Confessions
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- The transcription of a horrible moment captured on audio tape
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- Confession of a crime 11-9-2003
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Saturday, October 24, 2009
A confession of a crime...
More of My Story, sent to Eretz and here for the rest of you who care.
14 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 06:10 PM
Here is that story of mine, I was already to post this writing and my connection could not find the server, so I had to wait until now.
Here are some of the things you might not know.
After being charged the next day I tried to inform the superior of what had occurred. A follow up that I had with the Detective’s Chief of Police, Chief Bickle. After explaining to him what had happened to me he comments that it sounds like I did everything he would have done under the circumstances of the situation. He would have to talk with his detective to verify what occurred. After talking to the Detective the police Chief would not give me the time of day, seriously.
The District court Judge Borek sustained an objection to my talking about the man that caused the accident, destroying my testimony in District Court. I was the only defense witness I couldn’t subpoena the other people at the scene that was a job for a Lawyer and I was not permitted access to those individuals information. So the truth was not allowed to be told in District Court. You have to know that I tried. (I tried to get the real truth out and to obtain witnesses for my defense) Then Judge Borek remarked while sustaining the Detective’s objection that “he doesn’t know why the state paints those lines on the highway at intersections, nobody stops behind the stop line any way!.” Later he apologized to find me guilty and told me three times to appeal the case and get myself a lawyer.
He also immediately dismissed the charges that I had filed against the detective.
A different Detective (Gehman) on a Job site 30 miles from my base of operations and in the borough of the DA's office encouraged me to appeal my case.
There is the Lazy Lawyer Lee Bruce Hoffman that I hired. He was referred to me by the Law firm Lowenthal and Abrahams they advertised on the Christian radio station that I listened to.
L. Bruce Hoffman my Lawyer told me my Civil Liberties were violated. To Appeal the case, and so I did I went to the County court house to file my appeal. Then I went over to the DA's office the department of Public Complaints where I talked with an Abbreviated version of a man's name (Richard) Marsch who told me that if I went through the County Court procedure and the detective lies again to come back and see him he would pull the transcript and prosecute the detective for perjury, and that crime comes with a jail sentence.
Nine days later I found out that the Detective Randy Floyd had lied in another court room and was formally reprimanded by the District Justice Ruth Dietrich. She put a written reprimand into the Case file of a man about the Detective lying.
I found the address of a woman who was present on the scene and had warned me about the detective’s reckless approach with his car. She then questioned "Wow! What was his problem?" I also found a store owner to testify that there was another individual that was yelling a derogatory comment as he drove by, that comment was made loud enough out on the street that the store owner inside the store could hear the man, not what he said but he could identify a problem with another individual at the scene. There was also the guy that had caused the accident of which I wrote down his license number and I was never able to contact this man, as the cause of the accident he was not charged and his information was not included on the accident report. I tried to get help in obtaining that man's information, an event that the detective lied about was heard by that man and I believe he would corroborate the truth of what I said to the man that was using profanity at the scene and the detective when the detective finally offered to identify himself as a detective and show his identifying badge. The detective after Identifying himself would not let me tell him about what had happened I was taken aside with another officer and that is when the detective released the perpetrator of the accident. Then the detective released the officer I was talking with and made derogatory comments to me. I never got to tell about everything that happened at the scene.
My lawyer listened to my story, and about the perjury of the detective, he said if we could prove the detective was lying that he would sue the borough the county and the state for me.
At the last minute the lawyer came to me with a defense agreement where he didn't have to call any of my witnesses and he was going to defend me on the fact that I didn't have intent to violate the statute.
Next we go to court what a travesty.
The judge Lawrence Brown came into court reading a book the type of book you read for pleasure. In court the detective corroborated my testimony and contradicted the testimony of his own witnesses. Earlier in my testimony I mentioned about being a Christian, later the Judge turned to me and said "So you think you are a Christian? Well you are a liar!" I said "Excuse Me?" And the Judge repeated that I was a Liar. That little tidbit was not included in the transcript but it actually happened. The judge then increased my two hundred dollar fine to three hundred dollars. The fine wasn’t really about my conduct at all it was about profanity that somebody else used at the scene of this accident, it was heard and I was blamed for using this profanity. The Detective lied about my use of profanity. He lied in court, he made up a scenario and prosecuted me for something that I do not do! I had many people ask me to start a petition that states did they ever hear me curse, they would sign such a document.
The Detective at the end apologized to the judge for his appearance in court. The Detective came into court with his head all taped up with little one to two inch pieces of tape that look self applied, he covered every piece of his hair including his sideburns. And out the top back center of his head he had wires sticking up.
The Judge accepted the apology and called the detective a cone-head.
The Detective then explained that he suffered from tremors.
I ask you what is a Detective doing issuing citations if he suffers from a neurological condition?
Well anyway the lawyer promptly quit the case after the hearing, he then advised me not to acquire the transcript.
I called the DA to go over the detectives perjury told in court and the DA told me that he couldn't be bothered with my case it was too insignificant.
Ten days after I was trying to obtain legal services from the message boards here and was asked to give an opinion about the posts on the politics board at a thread depth of 100, that took almost all night, someone from MSN sent me one of those resume' popup adds and I filled it out the add said it should only take a few minutes and I wanted to leave the computer and go to bed as I had been up all night. But MSN kept asking me questions, my wife came down to send me off to work and she interfered with the add, I was almost done and ready to submit and the wife shut down the computer on me.
She then got upset, as she didn't know that I told dispatch that I was taking a vacation day on Monday I didn't have to go to work. But she got the Church staff involved scheduled me an appointment to see them did things on her own, and they sent me to see a psychologist who wanted to make a diagnosis about me instead of sending me to bed because it was a busy weekend. I was tired after all of that reading.
I wrote many things on the politics board that night and someone did give me the help that I requested, I was given information to contact the Center for Constitutional Rights in New York City, and of course they wouldn't get involved.
The time expired to file an appeal while I spent two weeks in the hospital.
The night of my commitment;
My wife left the house on me, and later that night the police barged into my home knocking me down taking me upstairs and getting me dressed, (I was in bed sleeping, not dressed to go out of the house)
They handed me the clothes that I was to wear and asked me to put my hands behind my back. I asked to have the cuffs put on in front of me. I think I heard mention that they were going to take me out to a car; I didn't want to sit on the cuffs. This request was immediately met with the officers, pulling me across my bed forcing me face down into the mattress and one of the officers putting a gun to the back of my head!
While in the hospital on a 302 report that was fabricated by my mother and the Crisis intervention worker Carol Bamford, my wife was then forced to sign the fabricated document that accused me of things that I did not do and would not do. I was diagnosed by a doctor that made that diagnosis based on what was written in the 302 report. He said "Based on what is written here I am diagnosing you with this disorder. I don't have time to sit down with you and figure out what your problem is, I want to see if we can fix you with these two medications."
I saw two stoned face women (MY Mother and my wife) sit in a chair across from me in the hospital when we had a 303 hearing it was evident that there was no love in our relationship anymore.
In the hospital I was given a four hundred question psyche evaluation which was to take an hour and a half, except the doctor now three days later from the incident of the diagnosis, on Friday evening the Doctor now had 20 minutes to convince me that I had all weekend to do this report. I went back to the man administering the test and he agreed to allow me another 20 min. for the lost time the doctor spent with me.
I was having reactions to the medications, so the doctor changed to two different medications, and I reacted to them, I really didn't want to be medicated, I knew my problem was a legal matter not a mental matter. I reacted really badly to those two medications, so again the doctor prescribed two more medications. I didn't like what these medications were doing and by now I am willing to take just one medication so I can figure out which does what to my body and mind. The doctor agreed and told my Ex about the change to one medication, I requested that he made sure he changed the chart.
I knew the night staff head nurse was biased evaluating me off of the report and offended by what was written in the report. Well guess what happened? The doctor failed to change the chart that I was getting one medication and the night nurse while asking me to take my medications, declared that I was refusing to take the second medication when I tried to explain that I had talked to the doctor and I was only to be on one medication not two. She ordered me to my room to have the second medication injected into me or would she have to call security and put me in restraints? Trust me I cooperated, but I wasn't happy about it.
As soon as I could I sought a new Psychiatrist, unfortunately and I reversed this quote, I went from the fire and into the frying pan. The man I would get used to be the head of Psychiatry in the hospital that I was in, it was his friend who was the new head of psychiatry that I had the problem with.
It was my first meeting with the new psychiatrist and he informed me that the medications were only recommended. I told him that the diagnosis was wrong and that if I was not ordered to take the medications that I felt I didn't need to. He made a comment to me about having the whole world lying to get me into trouble. I replied that that was about the jist of what had happened. He told me I had some 8 weeks to wait till I could start to go back to work.
That night my mother stopped by to check in on things and my EX informed her that I wasn't taking the medications, she came up to my bedroom to confront me about this, I thought she was going to hit me and I could tell she had an Idea. She then told me I know how to get you to take the medications, I can punch myself and report that to the police and that will force you to take the medications. My mother was so wrapped up in this wonderful plan of her she told it to the new psychiatrist that I just met. My wife had called him when my mother and I came down stairs. Mom went into the parlor one way and I went into the living room where I located my new radio cassette recorder. It even had a cassette tape in it. I turned on the recorder to record what was being said, the tape was at the end and I had to flip it over, I managed to do all of this and record my mother talking to the psychiatrist that my wife had called. I then talked to the psychiatrist he explained that my mom shouldn't do things like that and I asked how soon I could go back to work? The man then explained that I still had to wait the eight weeks.
I haven't talked to my mother since.
I stayed in the house for a year and two months until I was questioned or accused of something I was not! My Ex. happened to do this on our daughters 12th Birthday.
I had no intention of leaving that day but I couldn't stand to live in a house with a woman that was manipulating me and controlling me not owning up to her misdeeds, signing a false report.
Once in a while the truth would come out and then she would slip right back again. Acting as though I am a terrible person.
I challenged her to retrieve something that was removed from me she had to go to one of the Lawyers that was sympathetic to my story but refused to help me. The Lawyer drew up a letter for my wife to give to my mother to return Items removed from me. It was in the course about Easter that my ex-wife started to see the light about what kind of a mother I really had as my mother delighted in tormenting me.
After obtaining my stuff for me, my Ex has sine written three wonderful letters of confession about how she was manipulated and questioned my account of what had happened. One letter went to the Church, the church staff was asked to leave my house that day after my wife had left they insisted they had the right to stay in my house as they were the guests of my wife, who wasn't there at the time.
Another to the local police that abused me when they barged in I was knocked down never shown the report or warrant for my detainment and as I was knocked down one of the officers grabbed the inside of my arm so tightly that I had a black and yellow bruise for days. This bruise was documented by the hospital. She also questioned the fact that a gun was used while the officers cuffed me.
The third went to the hospital questioning about the diagnosis based on the false report and not an actual evaluation of the person.
Since my release from the Hospital the First Psychiatrist has resigned, and so has the senior pastor of my former church. The local police chief is going to retire in January.
And I have no idea what is going on in the police department where all of this started with the Lying Detective.
There are still plenty of omissions from this story but I think you will get the Idea of what I had gone through, and yet I say that as much as I have suffered I know there are plenty of others that have suffered far worse.
I still don't like what had happened to me, it was wrong from the beginning. I should have never been charged with any violation. I should have been able to defend myself in District Court? The Detective should not have lied to gain the conviction. I should have had access to information of people that I needed to be present in court.
GOD Bless
I care, so I guess I can comment then...
7 Replies Posted by: meepsqueak on 11/09/03 at 06:58 PM
I can vouch for the courtroom shenanigans because I was a witness to those.
There are some details as far as the rest that only I can truly speak for because they are about what I was supposed to be feeling and thinking...only I can answer for that...
RE: I guess I can comment then too...
4 Replies Posted by: jcwriter on 11/09/03 at 07:24 PM
Meep, God be with you and your children. I offer all of you my condolences in a tragic situation that is affecting all of you so deeply. With any energy that you have left, try to give your children as much normalcy as you are able to give them. The future belongs to your children.
A Mother's work is at some time done...
1 Replies Posted by: EretzIsrael on 11/10/03 at 03:11 AM
A Witness,
Thank you for sharing your very stressful life circumstances. Before we address the original scene of the accident, before we address the courts, before we address the 302 and 303 reports, before we address the arrest and incarceration, before we address the separation, may I make a sociological evaluation regarding the information you posted. (I want to stress that this is not a personal psychological evaluation of you as so many others have attempted to render.)
Your mother sounds like the source of the problems with your marriage.
I have been alive long enough, be around enough, seem enough and understood enough to know that even a beloved mother may be a stumbling stone to a marriage. I do not know your mother, I’ve never met her, I am not passing judgment on her, but from my gleanings on both your and meepsqueak’s posts, everything evil that happened to you and your marriage after the original court case surrounds your mother’s intervention into your and meepsqueak’s life.
Do you believe that I may be right?
Sincerely,
EretzIsrael
14 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 06:10 PM
Here is that story of mine, I was already to post this writing and my connection could not find the server, so I had to wait until now.
Here are some of the things you might not know.
After being charged the next day I tried to inform the superior of what had occurred. A follow up that I had with the Detective’s Chief of Police, Chief Bickle. After explaining to him what had happened to me he comments that it sounds like I did everything he would have done under the circumstances of the situation. He would have to talk with his detective to verify what occurred. After talking to the Detective the police Chief would not give me the time of day, seriously.
The District court Judge Borek sustained an objection to my talking about the man that caused the accident, destroying my testimony in District Court. I was the only defense witness I couldn’t subpoena the other people at the scene that was a job for a Lawyer and I was not permitted access to those individuals information. So the truth was not allowed to be told in District Court. You have to know that I tried. (I tried to get the real truth out and to obtain witnesses for my defense) Then Judge Borek remarked while sustaining the Detective’s objection that “he doesn’t know why the state paints those lines on the highway at intersections, nobody stops behind the stop line any way!.” Later he apologized to find me guilty and told me three times to appeal the case and get myself a lawyer.
He also immediately dismissed the charges that I had filed against the detective.
A different Detective (Gehman) on a Job site 30 miles from my base of operations and in the borough of the DA's office encouraged me to appeal my case.
There is the Lazy Lawyer Lee Bruce Hoffman that I hired. He was referred to me by the Law firm Lowenthal and Abrahams they advertised on the Christian radio station that I listened to.
L. Bruce Hoffman my Lawyer told me my Civil Liberties were violated. To Appeal the case, and so I did I went to the County court house to file my appeal. Then I went over to the DA's office the department of Public Complaints where I talked with an Abbreviated version of a man's name (Richard) Marsch who told me that if I went through the County Court procedure and the detective lies again to come back and see him he would pull the transcript and prosecute the detective for perjury, and that crime comes with a jail sentence.
Nine days later I found out that the Detective Randy Floyd had lied in another court room and was formally reprimanded by the District Justice Ruth Dietrich. She put a written reprimand into the Case file of a man about the Detective lying.
I found the address of a woman who was present on the scene and had warned me about the detective’s reckless approach with his car. She then questioned "Wow! What was his problem?" I also found a store owner to testify that there was another individual that was yelling a derogatory comment as he drove by, that comment was made loud enough out on the street that the store owner inside the store could hear the man, not what he said but he could identify a problem with another individual at the scene. There was also the guy that had caused the accident of which I wrote down his license number and I was never able to contact this man, as the cause of the accident he was not charged and his information was not included on the accident report. I tried to get help in obtaining that man's information, an event that the detective lied about was heard by that man and I believe he would corroborate the truth of what I said to the man that was using profanity at the scene and the detective when the detective finally offered to identify himself as a detective and show his identifying badge. The detective after Identifying himself would not let me tell him about what had happened I was taken aside with another officer and that is when the detective released the perpetrator of the accident. Then the detective released the officer I was talking with and made derogatory comments to me. I never got to tell about everything that happened at the scene.
My lawyer listened to my story, and about the perjury of the detective, he said if we could prove the detective was lying that he would sue the borough the county and the state for me.
At the last minute the lawyer came to me with a defense agreement where he didn't have to call any of my witnesses and he was going to defend me on the fact that I didn't have intent to violate the statute.
Next we go to court what a travesty.
The judge Lawrence Brown came into court reading a book the type of book you read for pleasure. In court the detective corroborated my testimony and contradicted the testimony of his own witnesses. Earlier in my testimony I mentioned about being a Christian, later the Judge turned to me and said "So you think you are a Christian? Well you are a liar!" I said "Excuse Me?" And the Judge repeated that I was a Liar. That little tidbit was not included in the transcript but it actually happened. The judge then increased my two hundred dollar fine to three hundred dollars. The fine wasn’t really about my conduct at all it was about profanity that somebody else used at the scene of this accident, it was heard and I was blamed for using this profanity. The Detective lied about my use of profanity. He lied in court, he made up a scenario and prosecuted me for something that I do not do! I had many people ask me to start a petition that states did they ever hear me curse, they would sign such a document.
The Detective at the end apologized to the judge for his appearance in court. The Detective came into court with his head all taped up with little one to two inch pieces of tape that look self applied, he covered every piece of his hair including his sideburns. And out the top back center of his head he had wires sticking up.
The Judge accepted the apology and called the detective a cone-head.
The Detective then explained that he suffered from tremors.
I ask you what is a Detective doing issuing citations if he suffers from a neurological condition?
Well anyway the lawyer promptly quit the case after the hearing, he then advised me not to acquire the transcript.
I called the DA to go over the detectives perjury told in court and the DA told me that he couldn't be bothered with my case it was too insignificant.
Ten days after I was trying to obtain legal services from the message boards here and was asked to give an opinion about the posts on the politics board at a thread depth of 100, that took almost all night, someone from MSN sent me one of those resume' popup adds and I filled it out the add said it should only take a few minutes and I wanted to leave the computer and go to bed as I had been up all night. But MSN kept asking me questions, my wife came down to send me off to work and she interfered with the add, I was almost done and ready to submit and the wife shut down the computer on me.
She then got upset, as she didn't know that I told dispatch that I was taking a vacation day on Monday I didn't have to go to work. But she got the Church staff involved scheduled me an appointment to see them did things on her own, and they sent me to see a psychologist who wanted to make a diagnosis about me instead of sending me to bed because it was a busy weekend. I was tired after all of that reading.
I wrote many things on the politics board that night and someone did give me the help that I requested, I was given information to contact the Center for Constitutional Rights in New York City, and of course they wouldn't get involved.
The time expired to file an appeal while I spent two weeks in the hospital.
The night of my commitment;
My wife left the house on me, and later that night the police barged into my home knocking me down taking me upstairs and getting me dressed, (I was in bed sleeping, not dressed to go out of the house)
They handed me the clothes that I was to wear and asked me to put my hands behind my back. I asked to have the cuffs put on in front of me. I think I heard mention that they were going to take me out to a car; I didn't want to sit on the cuffs. This request was immediately met with the officers, pulling me across my bed forcing me face down into the mattress and one of the officers putting a gun to the back of my head!
While in the hospital on a 302 report that was fabricated by my mother and the Crisis intervention worker Carol Bamford, my wife was then forced to sign the fabricated document that accused me of things that I did not do and would not do. I was diagnosed by a doctor that made that diagnosis based on what was written in the 302 report. He said "Based on what is written here I am diagnosing you with this disorder. I don't have time to sit down with you and figure out what your problem is, I want to see if we can fix you with these two medications."
I saw two stoned face women (MY Mother and my wife) sit in a chair across from me in the hospital when we had a 303 hearing it was evident that there was no love in our relationship anymore.
In the hospital I was given a four hundred question psyche evaluation which was to take an hour and a half, except the doctor now three days later from the incident of the diagnosis, on Friday evening the Doctor now had 20 minutes to convince me that I had all weekend to do this report. I went back to the man administering the test and he agreed to allow me another 20 min. for the lost time the doctor spent with me.
I was having reactions to the medications, so the doctor changed to two different medications, and I reacted to them, I really didn't want to be medicated, I knew my problem was a legal matter not a mental matter. I reacted really badly to those two medications, so again the doctor prescribed two more medications. I didn't like what these medications were doing and by now I am willing to take just one medication so I can figure out which does what to my body and mind. The doctor agreed and told my Ex about the change to one medication, I requested that he made sure he changed the chart.
I knew the night staff head nurse was biased evaluating me off of the report and offended by what was written in the report. Well guess what happened? The doctor failed to change the chart that I was getting one medication and the night nurse while asking me to take my medications, declared that I was refusing to take the second medication when I tried to explain that I had talked to the doctor and I was only to be on one medication not two. She ordered me to my room to have the second medication injected into me or would she have to call security and put me in restraints? Trust me I cooperated, but I wasn't happy about it.
As soon as I could I sought a new Psychiatrist, unfortunately and I reversed this quote, I went from the fire and into the frying pan. The man I would get used to be the head of Psychiatry in the hospital that I was in, it was his friend who was the new head of psychiatry that I had the problem with.
It was my first meeting with the new psychiatrist and he informed me that the medications were only recommended. I told him that the diagnosis was wrong and that if I was not ordered to take the medications that I felt I didn't need to. He made a comment to me about having the whole world lying to get me into trouble. I replied that that was about the jist of what had happened. He told me I had some 8 weeks to wait till I could start to go back to work.
That night my mother stopped by to check in on things and my EX informed her that I wasn't taking the medications, she came up to my bedroom to confront me about this, I thought she was going to hit me and I could tell she had an Idea. She then told me I know how to get you to take the medications, I can punch myself and report that to the police and that will force you to take the medications. My mother was so wrapped up in this wonderful plan of her she told it to the new psychiatrist that I just met. My wife had called him when my mother and I came down stairs. Mom went into the parlor one way and I went into the living room where I located my new radio cassette recorder. It even had a cassette tape in it. I turned on the recorder to record what was being said, the tape was at the end and I had to flip it over, I managed to do all of this and record my mother talking to the psychiatrist that my wife had called. I then talked to the psychiatrist he explained that my mom shouldn't do things like that and I asked how soon I could go back to work? The man then explained that I still had to wait the eight weeks.
I haven't talked to my mother since.
I stayed in the house for a year and two months until I was questioned or accused of something I was not! My Ex. happened to do this on our daughters 12th Birthday.
I had no intention of leaving that day but I couldn't stand to live in a house with a woman that was manipulating me and controlling me not owning up to her misdeeds, signing a false report.
Once in a while the truth would come out and then she would slip right back again. Acting as though I am a terrible person.
I challenged her to retrieve something that was removed from me she had to go to one of the Lawyers that was sympathetic to my story but refused to help me. The Lawyer drew up a letter for my wife to give to my mother to return Items removed from me. It was in the course about Easter that my ex-wife started to see the light about what kind of a mother I really had as my mother delighted in tormenting me.
After obtaining my stuff for me, my Ex has sine written three wonderful letters of confession about how she was manipulated and questioned my account of what had happened. One letter went to the Church, the church staff was asked to leave my house that day after my wife had left they insisted they had the right to stay in my house as they were the guests of my wife, who wasn't there at the time.
Another to the local police that abused me when they barged in I was knocked down never shown the report or warrant for my detainment and as I was knocked down one of the officers grabbed the inside of my arm so tightly that I had a black and yellow bruise for days. This bruise was documented by the hospital. She also questioned the fact that a gun was used while the officers cuffed me.
The third went to the hospital questioning about the diagnosis based on the false report and not an actual evaluation of the person.
Since my release from the Hospital the First Psychiatrist has resigned, and so has the senior pastor of my former church. The local police chief is going to retire in January.
And I have no idea what is going on in the police department where all of this started with the Lying Detective.
There are still plenty of omissions from this story but I think you will get the Idea of what I had gone through, and yet I say that as much as I have suffered I know there are plenty of others that have suffered far worse.
I still don't like what had happened to me, it was wrong from the beginning. I should have never been charged with any violation. I should have been able to defend myself in District Court? The Detective should not have lied to gain the conviction. I should have had access to information of people that I needed to be present in court.
GOD Bless
RE: More of My Story, sent to Eretz and here for the rest of you who care.
0 Replies Posted by: Crazy Hippie on 11/09/03 at 06:23 PM
Let me get Fizzy... it will be a few minutes before she can get to the board... whether she'll coment on it I don't know... Fizzy is my wife, a post doctoral attorney and more important one who also believes in God.
CrazyHippie®
From Fizzy
4 Replies Posted by: Crazy Hippie on 11/09/03 at 06:41 PM
It sounds like you've been through some tough times, and didn't get all the help and cooperation you needed and wanted.
We live in a fallen world. God sometimes seems to allow rotten circumstances to build up against us. We cannot control our circumstances. But we can control our responses to them...and to the imperfect people around us. Perhaps there was a lesson especially for you in this. Perhaps God plans to use these experiences to bring you closer to Him, which he often does when we come to the end of ourselves and our respective ropes. The darkest hour, as they say, is just before the dawn.
I will pray with you that as you gain the perspective of distance and look back on these events you will see that God had some good purpose for you in there.
Fizzy
RE: Yep... Fizzy... I certainly see the light at the end of the Tunnel...
3 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 06:57 PM
I have known what my path was from the beginning.
I didn't want to travel this path, I was more like forced down the path, and then I saw the signs of GOD there with me always.
That is when I knew.
There is much for me to do, and it gets harder as we keep getting deeper into this war on terrorism.
We need to get the world to grasp the fact that it is wrong to Kill, it is necessary to change our religious perspectives to then show the right way to resolve conflicts, in accordance with the TRUE will of GOD.
How can we be an example to others if we are not respected but feared by the rest of the world.
We need to stand down, Collect the data on where the explosives come from. Defuse political agenda's and bring common sense to the courts.
GOD Bless
And again I pray for All, You, and C.H., All of the others and Myself. I pray that we can all work together for a brighter tomorrow for the future belongs to our children and their children.
Peace and Love
GJL
P.S.
Somebody asked about tunnel vision, to be focussed on that one point that is infront of you and not seeing everything that happens around you. Actually my vision field is quite broad, I have some extra training on how to look in the right direction open my eyes and see or take in as much as possible. I caught on quick. I'm not as good when I am really tired. But I think that applies to all of us.
RE: RE: Yep... Fizzy... I certainly see the light at the end of the Tunnel...
2 Replies Posted by: Crazy Hippie on 11/09/03 at 07:47 PM
When I read your reply to Fizzy, I couldn't help be see one thing, maybe that's tunnel vision on my part, I don't know, but what i do see is surrender, and surrender to God as to not change the world, but to change oneself. I found that the more I changed, the more differently people looked to me, I seemed to understand and was readily able to forgive them when i felt they wronged me. Before I couldn't i blamed the world, things. and people around me for why I was feeling the way I was, why others didn't like me, why those close to me thought I needed help.
Well I got to the point to where I needed them more than I needed to be right, and I needed to change so i could accept their help. I had to give myself to God, and pray that God would work through others so i can help see what i need to change about myself. And a funny thing happened, I started seeing the world in a different way. I started finding people that actually knew more than me.. (lol) and believe me, with an IQ of over 140 and taken when i was high on drugs was pretty hard for me to take. Someone knowing more than me... yeah right.
the person that first reached out to me and helped me was a person that had been where i had been... and somehow got back into accpeting life on life terms... being happy... so i asked him how he did it, and he told me. I so much wanted to be like that person, happy, other people liking him for who and what he is I followed his advice.
He told me to be quiet, listen, and no matter how absurd it sounded to do what others told me to do in this place called AA. Again, I wanted to be happy, i was tired of feeling different from others, I was tired of being miserable and having so much wrong happening all around me, I surrendered... and did what they told me to do. They told me to follow these simple steps. I started seeing the world a little differently... and found that if i surrendered in working these simple steps (which turned out to be hell.. lol) good things started happening to me, around me, and to those that i loved. even people that i thought would never have anything to do with me started listening to me, and I listened to them... needless to say, i started being happy living life on lifes terms... even my son found it in his heart to forgive me, to trust me, and to love me again... all because someone told me to do some steps, get my head out of my know it all arse.. and start working those steps with the help of others and of God.
For me, I had to surrender, I had to give to God but first to others what i couldn't control myself... people places and things.. I eventually learned how to control myself when people and things started affecting me, i eventually started to learn that it wasn't them that needed changing, because I have no power to do that.. the only power I had was to change myself. And those simple steps I followed have given me a new lease on life, it's taught me to accept and love things that i normally never could have, and not allow them to affect my behavior, hurt my feelings, or make me angry. Now, God is doing for me what i cannot for myself...
There are 12 promises I looked at that were written on the wall when i first went into this place that gave me those steps, AA...
1.We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness.
2.We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it.
3.We will comprehend the word serenity.
4.We will know peace.
5.No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our
experience can benefit others.
6.The feelings of uselessness and self-pity will disappear.
7.We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows.
8.Self-seeking will slip away.
9.Our whole attitude and outlook on life will change.
10.Fear of people and economic insecurity will leave us.
11.We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us
12.We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could
not do for ourselves.
I got tears in my eyes, this hardened criminal from the streets of Houston and El Paso Texas wanted to have those promises fullfilled in his life so badly. And guess what, I have these promises being met in my life today, they become more true everyday...
Thank you God... for leading me through others to what i needed most, you.
God Bless,
CrazyHippie®
RE: Well C.H. if you really knew me, I would be a model 12 stepper, I learned to apply these things to my life a long time ago
1 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 08:26 PM
I often take time to be in the moment,
GOD is with me and I am at peace with that.
I learned most of what I know from my father and the Bible.
My life has been a travesty with the parents Divorce and Constantly being picked on in school, I knew that I had a different spirit that was not appreciated.
I have lived, and at a young age I had to live more than most had to go through in a lifetime.
And yet my childhood was not all that terrible all of the time, my fondest memories are of a Father and a Mother working together on a family, doing family vacations, and then later the Hunting trips and time I would spend with my Father.
But time has moved on and promises were broken and the experience of my life has now driven a wedge in that relationship between my father and I. We no longer see eye to eye.
GOD Bless and know that I know GOD
I pray for Peace and Love to All of GOD's Children.
RE: RE: Well C.H. if you really knew me, I would be a model 12 stepper, I learned to apply these things to my life a long time
0 Replies Posted by: Crazy Hippie on 11/09/03 at 08:41 PM
Yeah, it's hard to love someone as God wants us to, forgive them for what they did, and accept them with all their faults and wrongs they have committed to us and to those we love...
I do pray that you and your father can mend yourselves, as God wants for all of us to do, and appologizing even when the other person is wrong.
God Bless you witness... may God always be at your side, and forgiveness be there always as God forgives us.
CrazyHippie®
I care, so I guess I can comment then...
7 Replies Posted by: meepsqueak on 11/09/03 at 06:58 PM
I can vouch for the courtroom shenanigans because I was a witness to those.
There are some details as far as the rest that only I can truly speak for because they are about what I was supposed to be feeling and thinking...only I can answer for that...
- -"My wife left the house on me,"
Yep, I left because I had been ordered to by people who were supposed to be experts and who I had erroneously thought loved you as much as I did. I spent the rest of that night under guard by your mother because she knew how upset I was and that I wanted to be with you. no one would let me see you.
- -"I saw two stoned face women (MY Mother and my wife) sit in a chair across from me in the hospital when we had a 303 hearing it was evident that there was no love in our relationship anymore."
As I pointed out above, the guard that gave birth to you was there to make sure I didn't run to you like I wanted to. I had already been saying over and over again before the second hearing that I wanted to see you...to be able to make it all go away. There were alot of people in that hallway to make sure I couldn't do that...and one sent with me to jump on me if I moved. So many people who kept telling me this was necessary and I should cooperate...who do I believe when I just wanted what was best for you...
- -"the medication issues..."
I drove the nurses nuts on that floor with all my calls. Do you remember telling me how they belittled me because of the loving way I would react to you...right from the very first minute that I was finally allowed to see you? I didn't care what they thought about me anyway...you were the only one in that building that I was focused on. When you called me about the injection they gave you, I called the nurses about it. The bottom line there is they thought I was an ***** because I loved you so much and therefore not worth listening to...
- -"That night my mother stopped by to check in on things and my EX informed her that I wasn't taking the medications,..."
I was on her 'hate' list because I flatly refused her repeated orders/suggestions to slip the meds into your food. I WOULD NOT DO THAT! In fact, I'm the one who threw them away.
The screaming battle she started with you did not end as she intended. I called the Dr. to get her to SHUT UP!! I told him what she was doing...She was pissed off at the Dr. because he told her to knock it off, and didn't hesitate to tell me that she didn't like 'that Dr.' She was picking the brains of the Drs. she works with in the G.P. practice about what 'should' be going on. I was so glad when she left! - -"I stayed in the house for a year and two months until I was questioned or accused of something I was not! My Ex. happened to do this on our daughters 12th Birthday."
You had made comments about feeling depressed and had been drinking more. I approached you, not 'accused you', out of concern and love
because of what I had been told about using alcohol to self medicate depression. I was concerned about you because I love you...I was not acting like the shrew you keep painting me out to be. - -"I couldn't stand to live in a house with a woman that was manipulating me and controlling me "
I did not force you to take any medications...I did not manipulate or control you...I ironically got blasted(still do) by others because of the level of control you have always had over me.
You have constantly painted me as a hateful, unloving woman. If anything, I have always loved you too much...my heart was aching through all that happened...there was no 'joy' in it as you want the world to believe.
You never saw just how deep my love and devotion to you has been because you have always been looking the other way for someone 'better'. I'm not good enough, but I will always love and care about you..always have, always will....
Meep
RE: Sorry after posting I re-read my material.
1 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 07:22 PM
I see you did pretty good, I want to read this again there are a few things at the end that need to be addressed.
RE: I tried to Edit my last post as I edited some minor errors in the original post but I was unable to.
0 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 07:40 PM
So here I will address the couple comments that I have.
M.
>there was no 'joy' in it as you want the world to believe.
Reply:
I never said that you had joy in what you did, I have always said that your part was forced and a result of trying to deal with the things that you were forced to do.
M.
>You never saw just how deep my love and devotion to you has been because you have always been looking the other way for someone 'better'.
Reply:
If I was looking the other way then something was missing in our relationship, something major.
M.
>I'm not good enough, but I will always love and care about you..always have, always will....
Reply:
Everyone of us has the ability to love another any other person and a single person for a lifetime, That is if we do not become afraid to get close. You know that Love exists because you both feel the Love, your spouse trembles and is excited to see you, and on our daughters Birthday you couldn't even say Good Morning to me.
I had become a source of stress to you.
I'm so Sorry that I would become such a stress, I needed to be caressed and you never knew, I'm sorry I couldn't chase after you after all re-read that 302 report, what terrible things had I been accused of?
We are better now that I am out of your house...
Sorry...
RE: I guess I can comment then too...
4 Replies Posted by: jcwriter on 11/09/03 at 07:24 PM
Meep, God be with you and your children. I offer all of you my condolences in a tragic situation that is affecting all of you so deeply. With any energy that you have left, try to give your children as much normalcy as you are able to give them. The future belongs to your children.
RE: That also is true J.C.
2 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/09/03 at 07:48 PM
I hope you don't mind me thanking you for not attacking me.
I know what your Bible tells you about me, and I say that there are many other forces at work, and they have pulled this family apart and most of the problem is lies. Detectives, Doctors, Lawyers and Parents.
I did not lie when I told my wife that I loved her and married her.
I do not and I am not in love with what had happened to me, this has been a major blow to everyone involved. And why?
We do need GOD's Blessings, around the world for ALL and All need to be a blessing to GOD.
A Mother's work is at some time done...
1 Replies Posted by: EretzIsrael on 11/10/03 at 03:11 AM
A Witness,
Thank you for sharing your very stressful life circumstances. Before we address the original scene of the accident, before we address the courts, before we address the 302 and 303 reports, before we address the arrest and incarceration, before we address the separation, may I make a sociological evaluation regarding the information you posted. (I want to stress that this is not a personal psychological evaluation of you as so many others have attempted to render.)
Your mother sounds like the source of the problems with your marriage.
I have been alive long enough, be around enough, seem enough and understood enough to know that even a beloved mother may be a stumbling stone to a marriage. I do not know your mother, I’ve never met her, I am not passing judgment on her, but from my gleanings on both your and meepsqueak’s posts, everything evil that happened to you and your marriage after the original court case surrounds your mother’s intervention into your and meepsqueak’s life.
Do you believe that I may be right?
Sincerely,
EretzIsrael
RE: My Mother never did the work right, from the begining...
0 Replies Posted by: A Witness on 11/10/03 at 04:37 PM
Yes I know that many people coincided with my mothers intervention, the problem really was parental emotional abuse to both my EX by her father and me by my mother. My mothers abuse was more on the lines of neglect. There were some traumatic moments that were caused by her and there are plenty of stories to demonstrate that.
GOD Bless
Back to the top... I wanted to see what and if you replied...
There's nothing left inside JC...
0 Replies Posted by: meepsqueak on 11/09/03 at 08:40 PM
but pain. God will have to reach to me because I can't see through the tears.
I told the children today that as long as you're with the ones you love it doesn't matter what your circumstances are because you have each other. I always felt that way before, but I was the only one. If/when I lose the children it will be up to God to keep me alive and walking...my heart will be dead.
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